New FWH 15.05

[TimStone]

Antonio,

My work with VS 2013 is fine.

In VS 2015 Visual C was modified and greatly enhanced. Because VS 2015 Community is free, I believe many people will want to take advantage of it in the coming year. Right now I can build an .exe in it without errors, but the program will not start. We went through this before.

You did work out the build system for doing a 2015 version, so perhaps you may want to continue those builds as we move ahead, and then you know you are the industry leader !

For now, all my actual work is with 2013, and the experimenting will be with 2015.

Tim

[Antonio Linares]

Tim,

I plan to use VS2015 but as Robb cleverly pointed we should wait until it gets officially published

Do you know when will it be published ?

I agree we can do tests with it in the meantime. What I don't want is to have to support three different versions of VS (and Harbours)

[TimStone]

I still think you only need the two ... one for today and one as we transition into the future.

VS 2013 uses two lib files. Use the exact same name except with an x added and rebuild them with 2015. You will be keeping both on your computer. Then anyone who uses VS knows the default names work for 2013 and the default plus x works for 2015.

[Richard Chidiak]

Antonio

I build my application with vs studio 2013 and it runs on xp SP3 (note sp3 is needed), we still have several users with windows xp

Hth

Richard

[HunterEC]

Guys:

My humble opinion is that we should maintain backwards compatibility from XP upwards. There are millions of PC's still running XP in virtual environments, behind enterprise grade firewalls and appliances that are very secure. None of them prone to intrusion. Windows 8.1 is better, by far, than 7. There are good & reliable antiviruses like Bit Defender Internet Security 2015 (latest version). I have it installed in a lot of computers (my customers & mine) running Windows XP and, thanks God, we'd never had an intrusion. Old XP still do a lot of tricks. Personally I still support a lot of XP machines, along 7 & 8.1. Sadly enough, the computers that give us more headaches are Windows 7 based. In my workplace we ended up removing EVERYTHING that was Windows 7 based (including Server 2008 R2) from physical AND virtual environments due to a lot of trouble. We migrated everything to 8.1 and Server 2012 R2 and got PEACE OF MIND.

I have Windows 10 in a virtual environment but it is too early to have a thorough evaluation. Sometimes is a little sluggish in performance since the last 3 builds, the first ones were very speedy.

From a commercial point of view, the most platforms we support, the best. We cannot force our customers to migrate. The PC marketplace is not growing that much according to IDC data. Tablets have replaced a lot of PCs / notebooks. We should build APPS that interface with our PC software. Our company just built an iPad app and everyone (customers) are going nuts with it. This app interfaces with our harbour / FW software.

[Richard Chidiak]

Agree for tablet point of view , it is absolutely mandatory today.

We have developped a windows based tablet application but unfortunately the metro interface is not good enough (it is a pity , it does not need too much tuning) , gets have to be tuned as per virtual keyboard. I am waiting for M. RAo's change on the get class for tablets.

We can have (fwh community) an excellent and easy solution for tablets (windows based) . I am personnaly not interested in android or ios tablets, we delivered our tablet software to our customers on windows tablets and as adviced by us , they purchased windows tablets. Note windows tablets are excellent today and cheap enough to compete with any other tablet. I personnaly use a 10" HP tablet with external keyboard, it is an excellent tool for less than 200 euros !

Hth

Richard

[Antonio Linares]

Richard,

many thanks for your great feedback

[Antonio Linares]

Same for Gustavo and for everyone feedback,

thanks!

[MOISES]

Hello Richard,

I am sorry but it does not work:

[Richard Chidiak]

The only xp known issue is on AMD processors , it does not run on some of them not all (i don't know why) , intel processors are ok as long as you are using sp3 , we have plenty of xp customers. Moises is your pc amd ?

for amd xp customers we deliver a bcc based exe on demand

Richard

[MOISES]

Richard,

Sorry, but you are wrong. The PC is an Intel one.

Also, in my opinion it´s not a good image when the user downloads a demo and he can´t run it. In most cases he would discard such faulty software, and thus loosing customers.

In fact, modern antivirus tend to mark such software as potential damage and they block it. It´s quite hard to get out of antivirus banning lists too.

[Antonio Linares]

New build 4 of FWH 15.05 is already available to download:

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