Updates

[TimStone]

I'm wondering if we could get some info on updates. There were problems with 11.01 which made it unuseable and were apparently not fixed. We are nearly half way through March, and no February update.

Will we be getting back on the regular monthly updates soon ? Will it include fixes to the problems noted here about 11.01 ?

Thanks.

[PeterHarmes]

I agree, i havent been able to upgrade since June 2010 because of problems.

[mgsoft]

So do I.

I don´t understand why it is so unstable and why bugs persist!!

[driessen]

Also, I don't see any posts or replies from Antonio anymore.

I wonder what the problem is ?

[Daniel Garcia-Gil]

Tim, mgsoft, Peter

please can you post a samples with the problems reported...

to try help, i require a little sample (i can built) for each problem... thanks

driessen
don't worry there are not problem, all is ok, the forum is going well ... all users involved ...
Antonio always aware of our needs

[TimStone]

Daniel,

When 11.01 was released, there were several problems posted on this forum. None of them were ever resolved, and everyone reverted back to 10.xx. I didn't install the 11.01 because of the problems noted on here.

I bumped up five messages on 11.01 that went unsolved / unanswered. I hope this helps.

In the past, bugs reported after a release were fixed, and the version re-released. In addition, we were getting used to monthly updates, usually posted the last week of the month.

I currently use 10.12, but others can't even do that. They are on 10.11. This means for some people, they have not had a useable release in 3 1/2 months. Thats a long time. I also know others who are encountering similar problems and concerns but who have not posted here.

I hope we can get a stable release here soon. Some of the 11.01 features would be nice to use.

And yes, Antonio was on here at least twice every day ... and there have been no posts from him in quite awhile. We miss him. His expertise has held this group together.

Tim

[Richard Chidiak]

I agree with what Tim said

We need a stable release including all the fixes done by Daniel (tahnks Daniel btw)

And yes we miss Antonio's great and valuable help.

Richard

[mgsoft]

Daniel,

Thank you very much for your attention. Bugs are posted in the forum and are relating to:

- Memory leaks
- Menu prompt have been reduced
- Comboboxes
- Bmps disappear in Ribbon Bar

I will check again.

Thank you.

[Daniel Garcia-Gil]

Hello

you're welcome....

Bugs are posted in the forum and are relating to:

- Memory leaks
- Menu prompt have been reduced
- Comboboxes
- Bmps disappear in Ribbon Bar

already i fixed some problems....
this point is VERY IMPORTANT to fix

i require a little sample (i can built) for each problem...

look this post (How to do my question?)
http://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewtopic.php?p=103823#p103823
in spanish forum: http://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewtopic.php?p=103821#p103821

[TimStone]

Daniel,

I appreciate the desire for a little sample. The problem is that sometimes problems in one piece of code can occur from a different piece. It may not show up in a "little sample" but in a larger program it does.

Usually the problems occur when a change is made. Something that works fine in 10.10 might not work in 10.11. So, the error started with the code changes made in the 10.11 update. If you review your notes, it might make sense as to why the problem started happening.

With classes, and inheritance, the problem may not be with the specific class we are using, but one from which it inherited. If you change, for example, the control class, it will result in a change in many classes. One of those may then conflict with the change you made. I have seen situations where one class is not changed at all, but starts having problems, because of a change in the root class.

When I receive error reports after a new release, I always start by tracking what changes were made, and I can usually find the error very quickly.

I can't give you samples because I'm not using 11.1. Hopefully others can. However, you may be able to track down the problems just by looking at the description in those threads, and your change log.

Thanks.

Tim

[byte-one]

Antonio was not present in the forum for some weeks. Is there any problem, Antonio???

[Daniel Garcia-Gil]

Tim

without a test to reproduce the error, it is very difficult for me to locate the fault, the exact scenario to cause the error is indeterinante to me, is an information that the user should try to provide, unable to reproduce the error I assume that it does not exist or there is something wrong with the programming, not from class, from the user
all changes, we try keep compatibility with old version
i hope you can understand my point...(sorry for my english)

byte-one
all is fine, the fivetech team still working for the community

[TimStone]

Daniel,

I understand your english ... there is no problem. I wish I could speak Spanish ... I keep wanting to study it, but there is never any time.

I also agree it is very nice to have a small code sample. Whenever possible, all of us try to provide that.

However, in our programming, sometimes small is just not possible. However, logic is then used. If our code works in one version, but does not in the next, logic tells us a change in the FWH code is the cause. We see this a lot. You can have many people tell you that one version worked perfectly, and the very next one did not. They didn't change their code.

If our code is wrong, but we don't know what changed in the new release, then we can't know how our own code is wrong.

Each of us is in your same position. We have clients, and when we make changes, if they have problems, we must find them and fix them. Unfortunately, we can't ask end users for a "small reproduceable sample."

Tim

[mgsoft]

Daniel,

Thank you for your attention.

Here is the sample: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K06XX67I

And one error when click on a button:
http://img34.imageshack.us/i/erroret.png/

[Daniel Garcia-Gil]

mgsoft

maybe is solved...
http://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewtopic.php?p=112255#p112255

that was a bug that got me gray hair, from i designed the class, was trying to fix it, had planned to publish the class without this feature ... apparently the solution is very simple