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Best regards,
Otto

Congrats Otto. Very modern and professional looking UI

Hua,
thank you for the kind words.
Best regards,
Otto

Really nice and professional Otto.
Anyway, I understood there is a lot of works to do on the dialogs to convert a "classic" Windows style application to a "Metro style" application and - in my opinion - there isn't enough value for money to do this. Different is to migrate to a web solution (hoping FW WEB) where this work has effective value.

Marco

What you say is true unless you target tablet applications, then migration is valuable but it is a lot of work...

Everything has to be redesigned. I am in a middle of a small migration process and i realize the difficulty.

No menus , boxes and panels and unfortunately metropanel class still needs a lot of tuning, hopefully Antonio spends some time on it to improve it.

Richard

Richard,

If you and Otto keep providing such valuable feedback, then we will keep fine tunning it.

I think this way is a very good approach and I have even seen it on another apps (not developed with FWH) so its clear that many people have thought about the same way too

Otto,

I am interested in more details.

1) What are you using as a container for the controls, a MetroPanel, a window, a dialog?

2) Do you have new metro controls such as the menu on the left side, etc?

3) I notice you have vertical scrolling on some screens. Isn't this different than the Windows 8 design principles (everything scrolls horizontally)?

Any other tips you care to offer?

Regards,
James

Richard,

...and unfortunately metropanel class still needs a lot of tuning...

I have done some work on this and will providing it to Antonio when I have finished a few other changes. Specifically, I have fixed some scrolling issues, grouping issues, and added navigation keys.

Are there any issues you are interested in that I have not mentioned?

However, after getting involved in Win 8 design, I see a bigger issue. The current metroPanel class was developed to emulate the Win 8 OS, not a Win 8 app. Win 8 OS simulators already are on the market.

But, what we need is a metropanel to develop apps in the Win 8 style. Since there can be lots of different app design formats, I think the best solution would be to use templates (as does Visual Studio). This, of course, would be a rather large project.

The alternative is to just use the current metropanel like a dialog and add controls to it manually via coding. This would be a much smaller project.

We also need more Win 8 style controls. Possibly these can just be subclasses of existing controls.

Anybody care to add thoughts on this topic?

Regards,
James

But, what we need is a metropanel to develop apps in the Win 8 style. Since there can be lots of different app design formats, I think the best solution would be to use templates (as does Visual Studio). This, of course, would be a rather large project.

The alternative is to just use the current metropanel like a dialog and add controls to it manually via coding. This would be a much smaller project.

We also need more Win 8 style controls. Possibly these can just be subclasses of existing controls.

Strongly agree
The problem of switching between MDI and application screens I have beguin to develop simulating Win 8 and the "Charm" to the left and it works OK for me ven though I have debug it..
And the screen design was to follow VS templates for creating application

http://forums.fivetechsupport.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24461&start=30#p147828

Regards

Totalmente de acuerdo
El problema de MDI y cambio entre pantallas de la aplicacion yo he empezado a desarrollar simulando a Win 8 y el "Charm" a la izquierda y funciona OK para mi aunque me queda depurarlo aun.
Y el diseño de pantallas iba a seguir las plantillas de VS para la creacion de aplicaciones.

Hello James,

the menu is made with xBrowse and the controls are on TMetroPanel.
If you have a look at W8 own PC- Setup there is vertical scrolling too.

>Any other tips you care to offer?
What should I say. I started 2 years ago with the transformation to the “METRO STYLE LIKE LOOK”. To change a whole program is much more work than you first think. I use FIVEWIN now more like HTML. Years ago I changed all to resources now back to hardcoded.
For example:
Only the decision should I put the description and the get field in one row or above took me a week.

I found my personal style for WINHOTEL but I don’t know if this is according to the standard.

Best regards,
Otto

Otto,

very nice

Congratulations

Thanks Otto.

I started 2 years ago with the transformation to the “METRO STYLE LIKE LOOK”. To change a whole program is much more work than you first think.

I am mostly interested in developing new apps in Metro style.

I use FIVEWIN now more like HTML. Years ago I changed all to resources now back to hardcoded.

I think we need an easier way. Time spent automating will be gained back many times over.

I found my personal style for WINHOTEL but I don’t know if this is according to the standard.

If you are interested in the Win 8 app standards, you can find them here:

Index of UX guidelines for Windows Store apps
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh465424.aspx

Regards,
James

Otto

How do you deal with radio buttons ?

Have you developped a particular control for this ?

Richard

Otto
Personalization of your application is wonderful and a great job.
You are using Segoe UI Symbol Font ? or pictures ? icons for "back", etc. ..
regards

Cristobal,

FWH provides samples/touch.prg used to test the FWH Metro related Classes, with many bitmaps, segoe font use, etc.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23854&start=0&hilit=touch