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James, Microsoft Outook 2007. The Toolbars have accelerator keys. The button prompts have underscores ... use with an ALT key and they are active ! I seriously considered the Ribbon bar in this upgrade for my software but went with button bars because they are a bit less confusing ! The major commen...

Hello Otto,

32x32 looks good in relation to the Bar-height,
but because of many BMP's You are using, 24x24 might be the better Option.

Best regards
Uwe

Hello Uwe,
thanks to you I am using PIXELFORMA since some time.
In this ribbon I have still a mix of bmps 16*16 and 32*32.
Would you say 24*24 would be the right size?
Best regards,
Otto

Hello Otto, maybe You can adjust all used BMP's to the height of the biggest BMP ( with Pixelformer ) ? You will get the Text in one Line. http://www.pflegeplus.com/pictures/adjust3.jpg Select from Menu : -> File -> Import -> Your BMP http://www.pflegeplus.com/pi...

Tim,
till accelerator keys in ribbonbar are fully working I still have the menu bar, too.

Best regards,
Otto

Tim, I changed many of my programs to ribbonbar. All is so much easier to handle. Antonio is very hard working on accelerator keys for the ribbonbar and I think in a few weeks we will have it. Now with OFFICE 2010 style all is so clean and very comfortable. I personally think that for many years thi...

Tim, Yes, I understand the legacy issue, and I agree that creativity is a good thing. However, if the Windows API doesn't provide for accelerators on buttonbars, then it may not be easy to implement. If you have never seen accelerators on a buttonbar, then API limitations may be why. Creativity ...

... because there is consistent placement. The result ... it works very well and people really like it. Now for the problem. The regular buttons had accelerators. The button bar does not ! The guys that are keyboard oriented, and have been with me since the early DOS days ( early 80's ) like to do ...

... programs and for these types of programs there are no advanced users--everyone is a novice since the program is seldom used. You can provide accelerators using a trick. Add regular buttons (not buttonbar buttons) with accelerators to the dialog but make them hidden. The accelerators will ...

OK ... but I don't have menus on all my dialogs ...
Maybe that is my bad, but they would be redundant ...

... menu choice, and thus this appears (to the user) to also work for the button. Menus are for novice users, buttons are for intermediate users, and accelerators are for advanced users. This is why every button function should also be on a menu. James

There are some old threads about ways to have accelerator keys for buttons on the button bars, but none are clean solutions. The prompts do show an underscore, ie "&Add" shows up A dd but there is no working accelerator. So, for my wish list, it would be nice to see this activated in a...

Otto,

We can't use those cause the transparency attribute of the panel that we are using

Maybe we could set transparency for just one color, but anyhow we need accelerators there.

... VIRTUALENDCLASS  The idea is to place a transparent Panel on top of the Ribbon, so we can place some BtnBmps (or standard Buttons with accelerators) and the user may select the accelerator for each little button.

... to keep backwards compatibility. * Enhancement: code from Class TBtnBmp Method SysKeyDown() has been ported to Class TControl, so BtnBmp accelerators should work fine from any control. Please review samples\TestBtn3.prg * Enhancement: function uCharToVal() in valblank.prg: (1) Corrected ...